Thursday, June 15, 2006

"Now about that Voter Fraud"...

Voter Fraud



During the comment period of the “Busby” post it was brought up that RightsideVA was attacking the Democrats on the “voter fraud” topic. Of course not all Voter Fraud is done by just one party but it is interesting to look at the history of this topic and to note who is responsible for the majority of this practice and incidents…


Went to the RightsideVA library and found the book “Stealing Elections. How Voter Fraud Threatens Our Democracy” by John Fund for some information on this topic…

* The Military Vote: “The problem is that most states are still conducting absentee voting essentially as they did in World War 2, depending on snail mail to deliver the vote”. It can take weeks for the military person to request a absentee ballot, receive it, use it, and send it back to the states to be counted. And as in the 2000 election there can be problems with dates and postmarks when the military mail service is used. Remember Democrat Al Gore’s lawyers in the 2000 election when they aggressively looked to disqualify the military vote. The Washington Post commented: “Absentee ballots from service members overseas need to be treated with the utmost care and subjected to ballot-counting criteria that are, at a minimum, no more stringent then those applied to regular ballots”…

* Photo Identification: A Rasmussen Research poll finds that 82% of Americans, including 75% of Democrats, believe that “people should be required to show some form of photo ID before they are allowed to vote. But yet Maria Cardona, spokeswoman for the Democratic National Committee claims that “ballot security and preventing voter fraud are just code words for voter intimidation and suppression”. Why so much opposition to requiring photo identification by political party?

* Motor Voter Law: Motor voter law was the first legislation signed by President Clinton. This allowed anybody renewing a drivers license, applying for unemployment, welfare, etc to register to vote without having to produce identification or proof of citizenship. Also states had to permit mail in registration which is very easy to forge. In Broward county Florida an eight year old girl successfully registered to vote. A elephant in the San Diego zoo was also successful in registering to vote. In Missouri the secretary of state found that 56,000+ St. Louis voters held multiple voter registrations…

* Pay for Vote: “The NBC affiliate in Milwaukee filmed Democratic campaign workers handing out food and small sums of money to residents at a home for the mentally ill in Kenosha, after which the patients were shepherded into a separate room and given absentee ballots. One of the Democratic operatives fled when she saw the NBC camera”. On Indian reservations Maka Duta was paid more then $13,000 in voter registration “bounties” by the Democratic party before county auditors discovered that she had turned in hundreds of illegal registrations. Maka Duta was linked to as many as 1,750+ questionable absentee ballot applications.
During the 1996 skin-tight election of Democrat Mary Landreieu of Louisiana the election was tainted by thousands of phantom votes including 1,380 people registered at abandoned buildings…

Imagine if we had an accurate and true vote total of all properly registered and identified voters during the next election in 2006? I believe it would not even be close and this is why there is so much opposition to proposed laws requiring photo identification and the likes…

7 comments:

Bubba said...

Free elections are one of the core items of our democracy. With the examples given here and with some of the other known election issues surrounding the Dem. Party, I really wonder if all the culture of corruption talk really pertains to the Democrats.

Also if they think that in order to win they have to resort to these kind of tactics what does it say about their platform, much les the ethics of the party as a whole?

zen said...

As you say, "Of course not all Voter Fraud is done by just one party" it is indeed interesting to consider who actually won the elections.

I'm sure this only means that the Republicans were sooooo much stronger that they could even overcome those darn cheating Dems. Too bad there are no examples of Republican voter fraud presented.

RightsideVA said...

Bubba,
"The culture of corruption" play is a good one but you have to be able to have a clean house before you complain. The Dem's should have considered this. The Abrahamoff thing with dirty money turns out to involve numerous Democrats including Democrat minority leader Harry Reid and many from both parties taking ??? money. Then there is the guy with $90,000 in his freezer...

Regarding the true count of votes I did not even bring up the "Chicago" factor and the voting of the dead. This is a true problem that needs to be addressed and not used as an excuse when your side does not win. I am in favor of allowing two days to vote, must provide positive photo identification, all names ran thru a database to ensure voting per person allowed only once, no media release of exit polls or counts until all votes are counted. I can wait until it's all done to avoid the following example of the 2000 election...



Election 2000 Florida
* CBS News declared Gore taking Florida and that the polls had been closed 18 times before polls actually closed...

* 3 seperate studies found that by calling Florida for Gore by 7:49 pm this suppressed thousands of votes in GOP heavy panhandle...

* Voting patterns since 1976 compared to 2000 vote showed that early call for Gore resulted in
10,000 to 37,000 missed votes in heavy GOP panhandle...
Research by John Lott

RightsideVA said...

"I'm sure this only means that the Republicans were sooooo much stronger that they could even overcome those darn cheating Dems. Too bad there are no examples of Republican voter fraud presented."

Zen,

I do believe that it would be a different story if we had an accurate count of the votes. As noted above in my reply to Bubba we should allow two days to vote to avoid those long lines and help prevent judges from keeping poll places in St. Louis open past closing times posted. Let the media play for that is what they live for but if we release no counts until the end this would help prevent any "Media influence" in turnout and people "Quitting" before voting. Weak people... Military vote? Damn right we should be sure to count those guys...

And I do believe those darn Republicans are strong enough to overcome the "Questionable" votes out there each election. The problems with voting seem to happen mostly in areas controlled by the Democrats. The bad ballot in Florida was designed and provided by a democrat election board. When "Missing Ballot Boxes" are found they seem to favor the democrat candidate... etc...

Please feel free to provide examples of the Republican party and their "tactics"...

Bubba said...

would those tactics include a solid platform and good canidates?

I guess then the Dem attack slogan
should have been.....(wait for it!).....(it's good).....


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"It takes one to know one!"

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Told ya it was good!

zen said...

What are your feelings about the redistricting in Texas? The Constitution says that this is to be done only after a census, every ten years. And apparently the Supremes said that the Voting Rights Act was violated there.

Just curious what the thoughts are here.

Bubba said...

Actually I have not looked into that one much. I have been too busy making torches to use on my march to the NYTimes building....LOL

I will try to do some reading/research into the ruling soon. But from what I have seen on the surface it looks like they upheld most of the redistricting......